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	<title>Comments on: The Truth Behind The Big PageRank Slap.</title>
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		<title>By: Neil_Shearing</title>
		<link>http://www.neilshearing.com/2007/11/07/the-truth-behind-the-big-pagerank-slap/comment-page-1/#comment-41121</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil_Shearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PageRank toolbar update is generally considered to not reflect an instant change in your site&#039;s PageRank, but the PageRank of what your pages were weeks or possibly months ago.

There are important other reasons for high rankings such as the link reputation and the keywords on your page... but the PageRank of the page also plays a role in determining where your pages rank in the search engines for particular search phrases.

As the PageRank scale is logarithmic, there is very little difference between PR0 and PR2.

Type &quot;business&quot; into Google and the first 5 results are PR 7,8,6,7,8. The first is, unsurprisingly, business.com. 

Neil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PageRank toolbar update is generally considered to not reflect an instant change in your site&#8217;s PageRank, but the PageRank of what your pages were weeks or possibly months ago.</p>
<p>There are important other reasons for high rankings such as the link reputation and the keywords on your page&#8230; but the PageRank of the page also plays a role in determining where your pages rank in the search engines for particular search phrases.</p>
<p>As the PageRank scale is logarithmic, there is very little difference between PR0 and PR2.</p>
<p>Type &#8220;business&#8221; into Google and the first 5 results are PR 7,8,6,7,8. The first is, unsurprisingly, business.com. </p>
<p>Neil.</p>
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		<title>By: Makingyouricher.com - internet marketing training</title>
		<link>http://www.neilshearing.com/2007/11/07/the-truth-behind-the-big-pagerank-slap/comment-page-1/#comment-41021</link>
		<dc:creator>Makingyouricher.com - internet marketing training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well for me I think the whole PR thing is more of Google way of &#039;showing the big image&#039; because I really don&#039;t see the benefits of higher PR above a lower PR in terms of traffic and sales.

I have a site that was PR0 and now PR2 but traffic and sales remain the same via Google. What then is the whole fuss about high PR all about? About selling links, I also do not subscribe wholeheartedly to it. I prefer building links in natural formats.  
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for me I think the whole PR thing is more of Google way of &#8217;showing the big image&#8217; because I really don&#8217;t see the benefits of higher PR above a lower PR in terms of traffic and sales.</p>
<p>I have a site that was PR0 and now PR2 but traffic and sales remain the same via Google. What then is the whole fuss about high PR all about? About selling links, I also do not subscribe wholeheartedly to it. I prefer building links in natural formats.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil_Shearing</title>
		<link>http://www.neilshearing.com/2007/11/07/the-truth-behind-the-big-pagerank-slap/comment-page-1/#comment-40631</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil_Shearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike,

I think it&#039;s more like the &quot;Total PageRank Pool&quot; is equal to the total number of webpages indexed. So, when the web was 100 pages, the sites shared a pool of 100... but now the pool may be 10 billion. Some sites with high PageRank will gain links as the site grows and maintain their high ranking... other will lose out to new sites who are growing faster... but it&#039;s growth relative to the overall growth of the pool that&#039;s important.

For more on PageRank, see...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank

Neil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s more like the &#8220;Total PageRank Pool&#8221; is equal to the total number of webpages indexed. So, when the web was 100 pages, the sites shared a pool of 100&#8230; but now the pool may be 10 billion. Some sites with high PageRank will gain links as the site grows and maintain their high ranking&#8230; other will lose out to new sites who are growing faster&#8230; but it&#8217;s growth relative to the overall growth of the pool that&#8217;s important.</p>
<p>For more on PageRank, see&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank</a></p>
<p>Neil.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.neilshearing.com/2007/11/07/the-truth-behind-the-big-pagerank-slap/comment-page-1/#comment-40581</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil, that&#039;s an interesting way of looking at it.  

So if the total PageRank of all web pages is indeed a finite number, that makes competition for PageRank much more fierce.  

Hypothetically, if the grand total of all PR across the internet was 100, and there were only 20 or 30 pages in existence, there would be plenty of PR to go around.  But if there were suddenly 10,000 web pages there would be very few with high PR and the rest would be left to clean up the scraps. 

Tthat&#039;s just an example using tiny numbers compared to the billions of web pages that exist, but with new sites going up constantly there must be a breaking point at some point or another.  

Of course, I put little stock in PR anyway.  It&#039;s better to concentrate on creating quality content that brings in revenue than worry about a little green bar in your browser.  Though you make a good point about a high PR making a good first impression on visitors.  Something to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil, that&#8217;s an interesting way of looking at it.  </p>
<p>So if the total PageRank of all web pages is indeed a finite number, that makes competition for PageRank much more fierce.  </p>
<p>Hypothetically, if the grand total of all PR across the internet was 100, and there were only 20 or 30 pages in existence, there would be plenty of PR to go around.  But if there were suddenly 10,000 web pages there would be very few with high PR and the rest would be left to clean up the scraps. </p>
<p>Tthat&#8217;s just an example using tiny numbers compared to the billions of web pages that exist, but with new sites going up constantly there must be a breaking point at some point or another.  </p>
<p>Of course, I put little stock in PR anyway.  It&#8217;s better to concentrate on creating quality content that brings in revenue than worry about a little green bar in your browser.  Though you make a good point about a high PR making a good first impression on visitors.  Something to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil_Shearing</title>
		<link>http://www.neilshearing.com/2007/11/07/the-truth-behind-the-big-pagerank-slap/comment-page-1/#comment-40561</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil_Shearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

I think Google index every single page they can, then use the total number of pages as the PageRank &quot;pool&quot;, then apply their algorithm to decide what PageRank score individual pages should have. In that manner they align their system with an increasingly large web index.

I seem to remember Leslie Rhode saying that each page you create generates a tiny amount of new PageRank... which basically means the same.

So, if the web is growing, but your site isn&#039;t, your &quot;share&quot; of it will fall proportionately.

Neil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I think Google index every single page they can, then use the total number of pages as the PageRank &#8220;pool&#8221;, then apply their algorithm to decide what PageRank score individual pages should have. In that manner they align their system with an increasingly large web index.</p>
<p>I seem to remember Leslie Rhode saying that each page you create generates a tiny amount of new PageRank&#8230; which basically means the same.</p>
<p>So, if the web is growing, but your site isn&#8217;t, your &#8220;share&#8221; of it will fall proportionately.</p>
<p>Neil.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark - Work From Home Business</title>
		<link>http://www.neilshearing.com/2007/11/07/the-truth-behind-the-big-pagerank-slap/comment-page-1/#comment-40521</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark - Work From Home Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be misguided here but surely as more websites are added to the rankings, surely it&#039;s harder to get a high pagerank. I would assume that the pagerank calculation will be based on a critical mass or websites each time it is recalculated, as a control referrence of who shoul get what PR compared to someone else. So basically if you are not building PR on a monthly basis your PR is going to be going down. I assume that at some point only the biggest sites will have any PR at all. Would that be correct Neil?

Warmest Regards
Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be misguided here but surely as more websites are added to the rankings, surely it&#8217;s harder to get a high pagerank. I would assume that the pagerank calculation will be based on a critical mass or websites each time it is recalculated, as a control referrence of who shoul get what PR compared to someone else. So basically if you are not building PR on a monthly basis your PR is going to be going down. I assume that at some point only the biggest sites will have any PR at all. Would that be correct Neil?</p>
<p>Warmest Regards<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PR is now as valuable as Alexa rank! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PR is now as valuable as Alexa rank! <img src='http://www.neilshearing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Neil_Shearing</title>
		<link>http://www.neilshearing.com/2007/11/07/the-truth-behind-the-big-pagerank-slap/comment-page-1/#comment-40471</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil_Shearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim,

I agree completely. It&#039;s like the marketer who puts a sports car on their sales letter to indicate &quot;success&quot;. But, the &quot;show&quot; is important too... people&#039;s first impressions of you are important... whether that means a flashy car or a PR9 homepage... it&#039;s still affects how people perceive you and how &quot;successful&quot; you are.

Hmmm... I wonder if a flashy car can be a business expense? Actually, it&#039;s my business and it won&#039;t be buying any fast-depreciating flashy cars any time soon! ;-)

Neil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim,</p>
<p>I agree completely. It&#8217;s like the marketer who puts a sports car on their sales letter to indicate &#8220;success&#8221;. But, the &#8220;show&#8221; is important too&#8230; people&#8217;s first impressions of you are important&#8230; whether that means a flashy car or a PR9 homepage&#8230; it&#8217;s still affects how people perceive you and how &#8220;successful&#8221; you are.</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; I wonder if a flashy car can be a business expense? Actually, it&#8217;s my business and it won&#8217;t be buying any fast-depreciating flashy cars any time soon! <img src='http://www.neilshearing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Neil.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t put much weight in pagerank myself.  To me, it&#039;s more an indicator of how frequently the Googlebot will visit my sites and an indication that my new pages will be indexed quickly.  But many folks value this as an indicator of their website&#039;s success.  A new client of mine quickly put a check in the mail to me after his site went from a pagerank 0 to a pagerank 3 after this last Google shift.  To me, traffic stats, organic linking, and conversions are more of an indicator of a website&#039;s success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t put much weight in pagerank myself.  To me, it&#8217;s more an indicator of how frequently the Googlebot will visit my sites and an indication that my new pages will be indexed quickly.  But many folks value this as an indicator of their website&#8217;s success.  A new client of mine quickly put a check in the mail to me after his site went from a pagerank 0 to a pagerank 3 after this last Google shift.  To me, traffic stats, organic linking, and conversions are more of an indicator of a website&#8217;s success.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil_Shearing</title>
		<link>http://www.neilshearing.com/2007/11/07/the-truth-behind-the-big-pagerank-slap/comment-page-1/#comment-40401</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil_Shearing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Juergen,

I&#039;ve thought about buying sites as PR boosters for other sites... I guess that&#039;s taking buying text links one step further... buying the whole site. ;-)

Neil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Juergen,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought about buying sites as PR boosters for other sites&#8230; I guess that&#8217;s taking buying text links one step further&#8230; buying the whole site. <img src='http://www.neilshearing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Neil.</p>
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